Ha! Tea 'n' Danger

Loving, caring, sharing, kindness, compassion, empathy, respect, equality, freedom, peace, critical thinking, logic, reason, understanding, science…

Carnism: The Psychology of Eating Meat

4 responses to “Carnism: The Psychology of Eating Meat

  1. cfslave May 23, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    Humans that go to these lengths are obviously feeling guilt for their place in the food chain, much like performance anxiety. We look after trees carefully,feed and trim lawns but we don’t generally eat them (well maybe vegans) but we choose to rip tubers from the ground and chop lettuce off and eat those. No guilt, right?

    But all species are here on earth to survive and thrive. Just because vegans have not chosen to protect plants they devour them with no thought. They have invented the term “sentient being” as their buzzword guideline for permission to eat or not eat. Maybe I don’t accept that term as valid.
    Possibly I believe that at any time or place anything organic is food for any other organic.

    If a tiger, lion, bear etc. catches me when it is hungry, I am food. I might even be a toy if it is not hungry. That is a natural law for the being who has the ability and power and the right situation.
    If I am badly injured with open sores and can’t move, out in the boonies so to speak, how quickly would flies lay eggs in my wounds and I would be slowly eaten by maggots.

    As to a disconnect as mentioned, this is no different than the disconnect any animal has when it licks its anus or genitals clean but would never knowingly eat feces if fed them. are you never disgusted when your cat or dog licks your face…and if you think about it, has just cleaned its anus. Disconnect…pfft.

    • Peter Parkour May 23, 2012 at 3:50 pm

      There are many reasons why people choose a plant-based diet, none of which are obvious, but may include guilt. Some do it for weight loss, others for health benefits, some do it for the animals, others do it for the health and future of the planet realizing that there is no quicker, easier or more direct way to effect their ecosystem. I’m sure there are reasons I’m not even aware of. I only know why I do it for sure.

      We have to eat something to survive, but we don’t have to eat animal products to survive. In fact, removing such items from your diet will no doubt improve your health. No animals need to be systematically exploited or killed in order to live a long healthy life. As it stands right now, no one even needs to go hungry in the world, because we already grow enough fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, legumes and grains to feed everyone on the planet. Unfortunately we take a huge portion of that food and feed it to cows, pigs, chickens and other such animals to fatten them up for slaughter.

      We as a society would rather feed a small percentage of the world’s population animal products, while letting a huge portion of the earth’s people go hungry and starve. I can see where that might cause some guilt. Add to that all of the disease, pollution, contamination, and poisoning going on around the world directly cause by the animal product industry, and I can’t see how more people don’t feel guilty. Yeah, that’s a bit of a disconnect.

      Factory farming doesn’t fit into the circle of life. It is an entirely unnatural process that is taking a toll on the lands, the waters, the people—the planet as a whole. In your circle of life scenario, I’m sure plenty of self proclaimed vegans (not all) would eat animal flesh to survive, but the fact still stands, we don’t have to eat animal products to survive or thrive. It’s also a fact that you don’t have to give up your animal products just because others are. I’m not sure why people like yourself make such a fuss about other people choosing a kinder lifestyle that benefits everyone including those who practice carnism. We’re not just doing it for the animals*. We’re not just doing it for ourselves*. We’re doing it for the earth and every living creature on it, and you’re welcome. 😉

      *There may be vegans out there doing it just for the animals or themselves, but end result is the same. Everyone benefits when animal products are removed from someone’s diet. The same cannot be said for every time someone adds bacon and cheese to a meal.

  2. cfslave May 28, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    I will only address the fuss at this point.
    To many of us, veganism is another fad by mostly upper middle-class people who live in the U.S. where the climate is more temperate and more vegetables are available more of the time.
    The thing is that when enough people start one of these fads they start to believe that all people should live as they do. If they can’t logically convince them, they will try to shame them. When that fails they will present their fad backed with very convincing junk science to government to force the issue. It is happening with fat right now. It happened with cigarettes before, even though now many people who have never smoked have lung cancer (and not many are from second hand smoke).
    I already feel like vegans are in my face, much like the proselytizing religious denominations of today.It even makes non-Christians feel like Christians re: persecution.

    • Peter Parkour May 28, 2012 at 6:36 pm

      Charities that feed third world countries tend to do so in a vegan manner. Not because they are advocating veganism, not because they are concerned with the rainforests, not because they are worried about polluting the land and water ways, but because it is the cheapest way to feed the most people. All of the other reasons are just gravy (vegetable stock) :mrgreen: for the rest of the world. That’s not a fad; that’s fact.

      As far as who’s embracing the vegan lifestyle by choice; for some it may very well be a fad, but it’s the healthiest, most earth friendly, obesity busting, disease preventing, cholesterol & blood pressure lowering, arterial plaque removing fad they’ve ever come across. With all of those actual, factual, scientifically proven points propping this fad up, why wouldn’t they want to spread the word?

      As for pushy in-your-face vegans, I’m really sorry to hear that. There’s always going to be a few bad apples in the bunch, but that doesn’t change the facts. It may be that they are over zealous, or maybe when they are questioned they have answers that differ from your understandings. I really can’t say for sure without knowing more.

      Maybe you should start a “BIG BEEF EATING BLOG” to battle their junk science with your wisdom and knowledge of all things meaty. I kid, but honestly, if you had a blog you truly could take your time to craft well written and thoroughly researched posts to back up your views. You could call out junk science when you see it, sourcing hard hitting facts that contradict the opposition. We could hit the ball back and forth from blog to blog. Instead of just crying foul, we could let the facts speak for themselves and let the people decide for themselves.

      I hope I’m not considered to be in this group of hooligan vegans. I do what I can to put information out there, but I’m not trying to force it on anyone, nor do I go out of my way to guilt people into seeing things from my point of view. I want people to know the facts. I want them to make educated decisions. Without the facts, they aren’t making decisions, they’re just going with what they know; fact or fiction. I don’t believe all people should live as I do, but I know they could.

      Pseudo science is a huge problem and should be called out more often. It’s the main reason people have such a hard time knowing what to believe. When in doubt, check it out. 😉

Leave a Reply to cfslave Cancel reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: